President Donald Trump, asked about Democrats who talk of arresting Elon Musk and nationalizing SpaceX, told the New York Post’s “Pod Force One” podcast that “It’s talk,” adding: “But if it is talk, we’ll have to protect them.” The episode and the Post’s write-up were published on 2 November. Trump told the Post the midterm results would be known “on Tuesday night.”
Former labor secretary Robert Reich said on his 24 October podcast that Democrats ought to “defund Musk” and lay “the groundwork for nationalizing” Starlink and SpaceX. SpaceX shares closed at $134.72 on 30 October, 28 cents under their $135 IPO price, as we reported.
The key insight: Asked about talk of arresting Elon Musk and nationalizing SpaceX, Trump told the New York Post’s “Pod Force One” that “It’s talk” and “we’ll have to protect them”; former labor secretary Robert Reich had urged Democrats on 24 October to lay groundwork for nationalizing SpaceX, and SpaceX shares closed 28 cents under their $135 IPO price on 30 October.
The Post reports that when host Miranda Devine raised the idea of arresting Musk, Trump was unfazed. It quotes him as saying: “It won’t happen. It’s talk,” and “But if it is talk, we’ll have to protect them.”
In the episode’s YouTube auto-captions, the question put to Trump at about 20:38 refers to Democrats who want to arrest Musk, seize his factories and nationalize SpaceX. The captions show the reply as “It’s talk. But if it is talk, we’ll have to protect them.” They do not show the words “It won’t happen,” which appear in the Post’s quote.
Asked about people around him, Trump said, according to the captions, that “if they do, we just have to protect those people.” Asked whether he would issue preemptive pardons, he told the Post: “I would if I needed to. Sure.” Asked whether he himself was a target, he said: “Well, I don’t know about me.”
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SpaceX (SPCX) closing price on 23 October, the last session before Robert Reich’s 24 October podcast, and on 30 October, against the $135 IPO price. Sources: Yahoo Finance daily closes; SpaceX 424B4 prospectus. The 8.7% change is our arithmetic; no source we read links the moves to these remarks.
Update, 2 Nov: Trump on Musk’s warning. Earlier in the same Pod Force One episode, according to its YouTube captions, the host put to Trump that Elon Musk has said that if the Democrats get a clean sweep of the House, the Senate and then the presidency in 2028, “the country is over”. Trump replied: “Could be. I think he’s not wrong. If they had a sweep, Yeah. the country would be I think it would be maybe forever destroyed.” The exchange is at about 13:36 to 13:56 in the episode.
Reich’s Nationalization Call
Reich wrote on his Substack on 27 October that on his Saturday “Coffee Klatch” podcast he had said Democrats ought to “defund Musk” and lay “the groundwork for nationalizing” Starlink and SpaceX. He wrote that Musk then posted to his followers: “Stealing companies is a serious crime. Prison for Reich.”
The Post’s article sets Reich’s call beside statements by Democrats in Congress. It cites Sen. Elissa Slotkin, who said a Democratic majority should prosecute “the people who enable” Trump, and Rep. Jamie Raskin, who promised to ferret out what he calls “systemic corruption.”
What It Means for SpaceX Shareholders
As we read it, because SpaceX is now listed, the political talk reaches public shareholders. Its shares closed at $147.49 on 23 October, the last session before Reich’s podcast, and at $134.72 on 30 October. That is a fall of 8.7%, by our arithmetic, and the 30 October close sat 28 cents under the $135 IPO price.
No source we read links that fall to Reich’s comments or to Trump’s answer. The share figures are set out here as context for the debate, not as its effect.
As we read the episode, Trump answered a question that bundled three ideas, arresting Musk, seizing his factories and nationalizing SpaceX, with one reply; he did not address SpaceX separately.
As we read the sources, the public call to nationalize SpaceX that they cite came from Reich’s podcast and Substack, while the Democrats in Congress the Post cites, Slotkin and Raskin, spoke about prosecutions and corruption inquiries rather than SpaceX.
President Donald Trump, “Pod Force One” with Miranda Devine, 2 November 2026, as quoted by the New York Post
“But if it is talk, we’ll have to protect them.”
Three Implications
FOR SPACEX SHAREHOLDERS SpaceX shares closed at $134.72 on 30 October, against $147.49 on 23 October, a fall of 8.7% by our arithmetic; no source we read links the move to these remarks.
FOR MUSK’S COMPANIES Reich wrote that Musk replied to the nationalization call on X: “Stealing companies is a serious crime. Prison for Reich.”
FOR THE MIDTERMS Trump told the Post the results would be known “on Tuesday night,” and said he would issue preemptive pardons “if I needed to.”
The framework reads: “The supercycle has a ceiling now, and the ceiling is political.”
As we read it, the framework treats governance as a layer that can reprice everything beneath it; this week’s exchange shows a listed company’s ownership being discussed on political podcasts. The framework is the owner’s argument and does not discuss Trump’s remarks.
Trump did not say in the passages we read how he would protect Musk or SpaceX, or whether a preemptive pardon would cover Musk. A market headline on X summarised his remarks as having to protect Musk if SpaceX is at risk from Democrats; those exact words do not appear in the Post article or the captions we read. SpaceX and Musk had not commented on Trump’s remarks in the sources we read.
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Asked about talk of arresting Musk and nationalizing SpaceX, Trump called it “talk” and said “we’ll have to protect them.” Former labor secretary Robert Reich had urged Democrats to lay the groundwork for nationalizing SpaceX, and SpaceX shares closed under their IPO price on 30 October.
A note on sourcing. Trump’s words are as quoted by the New York Post on 2 November 2026 and as shown in YouTube’s auto-generated captions of the “Pod Force One” episode, which we checked against each other. Reich’s words and Musk’s reply are as Reich published them on Substack on 27 October. Share prices are Yahoo Finance daily closes; the IPO price is from SpaceX’s 424B4 prospectus. Percentage and cents figures are our arithmetic.
Gennaro Cuofano is a CRO and tech executive who has worked in AI since late 2015, starting with bringing NLP, natural-language generation, voice and chatbot products to the marketing industry. His background is in law and finance: he holds a Master's degree in Law and an International MBA with an emphasis on corporate finance (LUISS Business School and the University of San Diego, 2012), and worked as a financial analyst at a real-estate investment firm in San Diego and as an assistant controller. His work focuses on business model strategy, business engineering and, more broadly, structural analysis: how companies make money, read from their own filings. He created FourWeekMBA and leads research there and at The Business Engineer, his newsletter on AI and business strategy, with over 95,000 subscribers and more than 1,000 published analyses. His writing has also appeared on Entrepreneur (for example, How to Digitize a Family Business in Europe) and HackerNoon. Find him on LinkedIn and Substack. See how we source.
